COMMENT
Flat 2 has been placing the bins back into position on their own. Since this benefits all of us I think we should all help out. A way of doing this would be to place a tick next to your flat number when you have moved/tidied up the bins and surroundings. A clean clear walkway benefits all of us and keeps the rodents down.
Thanks in advance for your co-operation.
P (Flat 3)
June 26 2008
Dear C
Thank you for your email. Please accept our apologies for the slight delay in replying. Please be aware that we are not involved in the management of the commercial units. We have, therefore, written to the freeholders with a request that the matter of the bins is resolved to your satisfaction. I ought to say that I do not have too much hope of an immediate outcome. Please be aware that the land on the side of the building is not demised to anybody in particular. It belongs to the freeholder but all tenants of the building can use it for access for their respective properties. You could park your car in front of the restaurant and the restaurant owner could not object even though they pretend that the ground on the side of the building in front of the restaurant is their car park. It is not. I will keep you informed. As we do not have email addresses for any other resident, I will be sending out a circular to all residents.
Regards. Kris Karol
Dear C
Thank you for your email. Please accept our apologies for the slight delay in replying. Please be aware that we are not involved in the management of the commercial units. We have, therefore, written to the freeholders with a request that the matter of the bins is resolved to your satisfaction. I ought to say that I do not have too much hope of an immediate outcome. Please be aware that the land on the side of the building is not demised to anybody in particular. It belongs to the freeholder but all tenants of the building can use it for access for their respective properties. You could park your car in front of the restaurant and the restaurant owner could not object even though they pretend that the ground on the side of the building in front of the restaurant is their car park. It is not. I will keep you informed. As we do not have email addresses for any other resident, I will be sending out a circular to all residents.
Regards. Kris Karol
After a gap of 4 years 19harperroad is back. Here is the latest correspondence:
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Ms C
London
17 February 2004
THE RESIDENTS MANAGEMENT COMPANY LTD
294 King: Street, London , W6 ORR
Tel': 020 8748 1229 Fax: 020 8748` 3667
Dear C
Re : 19 Harper Road , London SE1.
Thank you for your e mail of 3 February 2004 .
Firstly, please appreciate that your proposals relate to the surrounding land and commercial premises retained by our client hence it was necessary for me to consult them in the first instance.
I know that they are considering the matter but I am yet to hear from them.
Secondly, it appears to me that you have slightly misunderstood my previous correspondence. What I meant to say is that the improvement works, such as altering the layout of the courtyards and providing new features, will have to be consented by all flat owners and such expenditure should be treated separately. There is no doubt in my mind, however, that when it comes to the maintenance of the existing pathway, this job is properly recoverable from each flat owner under the terms of their leases.
Thirdly, I would like to spell out my doubts again. In your previous correspondence you commented on your meeting you held with the residents. You quoted names which were unknown to me. This indicates to me that you had a meeting with sub-letting people who are not Service Charges payers but rent payers and as such do not have any authority to decide whether they wish to have improvements carried out at the property or not.
I shall revert to you as soon as I have had the opportunity to discuss the matters raised with our client.
Kind regards.
CC : Grantglen
THE RESIDENTS
MANAGEMENT
COMPANY LTD
294 King Street,
London, W6 ORR
Ms C J
Temple
London
22 January 2004
Dear C
Re : 19 Harper Road, London SE1.
Thank you for your e mail of 13 January 2004 addressed to Liz of this office.
It is not quite correct what you say in your first paragraph. Mr David Taylor is not a landlord. Mr David Taylor is the lessee of flat 7 and he sub-lets his flat. The Freehold interest for this property is vested in Grantglen Limited, who is our client and on behalf of whom we act.
Referring to your numbered items
1 Rubbish Collection.
Indeed your idea is applaudible. I believe that the property would
greatly benefit, however, there is a slight problem. Please be aware
that under the terms of the lease, our client is entitled and obligated
to carry out maintenance works rather than improvements to the
property. It means, for example, if the door to the existing rubbish
cupboard falls off, it is our client's obligation to put it back and
then recover the cost from all flat owners. The proposal you outline of
creating new concrete paved patio area could be seen by certain
argumentative tenants
of the building not as mere maintenance but as an improvement. I would
be delighted to comply with your wishes and have the existing rubbish
cupboards removed, concrete the area to provide you with wider access
to the building, however, I would require the written agreement by all
seven flat owners. If you are unable to obtain the consent of one or
two flat owners, I would require the written undertaking by the
remaining flat owners that they would cover the cost of the works.
Further the cost of these works would not form part of the annual
building's runnng costs and would be seen as additional expenditure. I
am sorry to appear to be difficult. This is not my intention. I am
adopting this very cautious stance as I am frightened to spend the
building's money on yet more litigation.
Referring now
to the matter of the dustbins. I was in touch with this Council a while
ago, they stated that there would be no problem in providing wheelie
bins for the property, however, there is the matter of placing them at
present.
Referring now to the `boundary'. There is not one between
the curry house and 19 Harper Road. All that land is vested in
Grantglen Limited. I do not believe that the employees of the curry
house have exclusive usage of this part of the land, situated directly
in front of the side entrance of the restaurant, as they seem to assume.
2 Parking spaces.
It is not exactly correct what you say in your item 2. There are not
'parking spaces attached to the property'. Indeed, there is a concreted
area at the side of the property but as I said before, this land
belongs to Grantglen. We do recall being approached for the usage of
this particular area of land for residential parking, however, none of
the residents who approached me were prepared to pay for the privilege.
If you or your neighbours wish to acquire the car parking spaces, we
shall be pleased to take the matter up with the landlords again.
You refer again to the plans, even though I do not have the plans on file, I do recall seeing them. It is clear that the property boundary stretches up to the line of the fence parallel to the wall with the advertising hoarding and continues to the next property in Harper Road (including the car park used by the curry house staff).
You are welcome to obtain the plan yourself from H M Land Registry.
3 Rendering the Walkway.
I am aware of the problem. Please appreciate that I was holding back
with the work as I was concerned with the already significant building
maintenance bill in previous years as well as the high litigation
costs. Simply, I do not wish to put any additional financial burden on
the flat owners. If, however, the general consensus is that the works
must go ahead, then I shall pleased to put them to hand. However,
please bear in mind that there is no point of re-concreting the
existing walkway if the residents will opt for action dealt with in our
item 1.
Finally, I note you have sent a copy of your e mail to the residents. I
regret but I do not recognise the names of the recipients. It appears
to me that you have had a meeting with the sub-letting tenants rather
than the actual flat owners. I hope that you will forgive me for
copying your e mail and sending it with a copy this letter to all flat
owners.
I look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards.
Yours sincerely
Kris Piotrowski
January 13 2003
Dear Liz,
As I explained yesterday, all the tenants of 19 Harper Road met up last night and formed a committee, to discuss any issues that they may have with their tenancies, either rented or leased. The following issues were raised and we would like these to be discussed between RMC and David Taylor, the landlord:
1. Rubbish collection:
It has long been an issue for everyone that the current placing or rubbish bags in the black 'cupboards' at the front of the block is messy and unsanitary. Rats were actually present during the summer, and having the bags in containers that are not tight excerbates this problem. What we would like to do, as I mentioned to you yesterday, is to remove those cupboards, thus creating a slightly wider walkway to the block, and have one large bin instead at the front, near the gateway. It would useful if RMC could find out from Southwark Council how these are acquired, as I do know that the landlord rather than the tenants has to get in touch with them as I have already tried myself. Once we have acquired this bin, we would like to put posts up directly in front of the gateway so that no one can park there and perhaps have a contract with a tow away company so that the general public cannot park there and block our entrance. This is something that we would like RMC to consider and get back to us on. Please could you send me the file plans for this area so that I can see where the boundary lies between the curry house and 19 Harper Road to see if the walkway can be widened.
2. Parking spaces:
It was discussed last night that there are parking spaces attached to the property. The block has a large concrete area at it's front, which at present is used for parking by the curry house staff next door. I think that the Landlord owns both the curry house and 19 Harper Road. What is not clear is whether the concrete parking area is meant to be for the use of the curry house staff, or whether it is meant to be for the use of the tenants at 19 Harper Road. I would really appreciate this matter being clarified. Please could you also send me the file plans for this area and for the whole block of 19 Harper Road itself. 3. Rendering the walkway: The walkway to the block is at present very unsatisfactory and needs to be changed. It is very uneven, and therefore unsafe. It's uneveness also means that whenever it rains (which of course it does a lot!) that area is flooded, up to about an inch of water. Not only does this create mess, but also means that tenants get very wet whenever they try to leave the block! It would be appreciated if RMC also look into either concreting or tarmacing this walkway. Presumably it is a 'common area' to which they are under a duty of care to the tenants to keep in a reasonable state. I have copied this email to the other tenants and given a copy to Chris Dobson in Flat 1, who is not on email.
I hope to hear from you soon,
Yours sincerely,
CJ
Flat 1 C& S
Flat 2T& C
Flat 3 P
Flat 4 C
Flat 5 A
Flat 6 L
Flat 7 C
12 January 2004 Topics under discussion (in no particular order)
Signs labeling each Flat's bin space
Place a large "Wheely" bin out front for communal rubbish
Determine how many parking spaces are for use of residents
Investigate the Rodent Problem
Put a sign up reminding everyone to slam the front door shut
Install a lock to control front parking for the use of residents
Ask the cleaners to periodically clean the area in front of the bins
Loose tiles present a safety hazard, Chris (flat 1) has offered to fix this
investigate removing current individual rubbish spaces in favour of communal bin
Based on how it goes we plan to put up a guest book so that comments may be made.
In the meantime time please email any comments/suggestions to [email protected]